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Post by Art on Jan 20, 2004 23:16:26 GMT -5
Great software! I am absoluting enjoying testing this software. I can just imagine it being used at work or back at my high school.
I have noticed some things about the new version that I thought I would address. The first I noticed that was when the board turned at the beginning from the Family Feud logo to the Fast Money digital logo, there appears to be quite some black space that it looks like it hasn't been filled. The turning doesn't look as clean as it did in version 2.1. The second thing I noticed was that the digital board was condensed, most likely to add that 30th column that was missing. It shows some black space on the top and bottom of the board. It seems like it doesn't take the whole rectangle area. Version 2.1 seemed to me to look quite excellent in its size, though one column missing. The third thing I noticed was when the board rotates from the Family Feud logo to the Fast Money digital logo, once the board rotates completely, it changes from yellow to black, which is correct. I noticed that the first square was already black before it even begins to change, when it should really start in yellow and then change to black. The last thing I noticed was in the Fast Money round. If you notice at the end of Fast Money, on the 4th question, the first contestant gave an answer, and let's say the survey said 17. The second contestant gives another answer, and the survey said for example 38. When the Fast Money round is over, whether they won or lost, it shows that on the 4th question, the survey said 17 for both, which is incorrect.
I hope this doesn't discourage. These were just things I happen to notice when testing your software. I firmly believe that the next release will be awesome with all of these fixes.
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Post by Todd Robinson on Jan 21, 2004 8:43:12 GMT -5
Art,
You've hit on several bugs that are (mostly) things that need to be improved upon or fixed.
First of all, the board's added column required some additional margins to be added to the top and bottom of the board. In the show, the characters on the board didn't cover the entire board either. I always work on trying to get the graphics just right.
During the intro, the turning from the Family Feud logo to the digital logo is incorrect. For some reason, that first character doesn't want to cooperate! It shouldn't be a difficiult fix.
About Fast Money, by accident, I have player 2's 4th answer value assigned to match player 1's. This will be an easy fix. It slipped by me!
I'm not sure exactly what you mean about the "black space" in the first problem you mentioned.
Anyway, I'll be working to resolve these problems. There will be a version 3.1.
Todd
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Post by foex91 on Jan 21, 2004 20:59:03 GMT -5
Todd,
The black space, or "gap" that I'm talking about is seen when you use CTRL and the right arrow key to manually rotate the board. When you rotate it manually, and when the board is rotated halfway, which means that you can see both the Family Feud logo and the Family Feud Fast Money digital logo, you'll see a black "gap" in the middle that wasn't there in version 2.1. I thought that the rotation graphics in version 2.1 was absolutely perfect. Maybe it will be perfect in version 3.1.
I understand about the margins thing. I just happen to notice that it was a little more than version 2.1. Maybe it's just a sight preference.
A feature that I would most likely request is that when Fast Money round is over, the administrator can press the Page Down key to make the digital board go line by line and replace the contents of Fast Money with the Family Feud digital logo. And then after that, have an ending where the lights would be flashing, the theme would be playing, and the board would be changing from black to yellow, and from yellow to black in a loop. I was wondering if that is possible.
Again, awesome software. Keep up the good work. Kudos to you Todd.
Art
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Post by KyleCHaight on Jan 21, 2004 22:32:21 GMT -5
This is Kyle C. Haight of Kyle's "Family Feud" Dominion...
I agree with everyone else. This program is UNBELIEVABLE! Kudos to you! You are a King among men!
I would like to request in the next version, that there be an "ending sequence" like the one described above. (With the Fast Money answers replaced with the digital "Family Feud" logo.) Also, I would suggest that the main theme be edited so it plays similar to the one on the show. (The theme on there now that plays during the end sequence is missing the banjo interlude in the middle of the song.)
Once again, well done! Keep up the good work! I've got big plans for this program!
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Post by foex91 on Jan 21, 2004 22:47:03 GMT -5
I also forgot to mention that I can't wait for the 88 conversion. I'll be glad to test it out.
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Post by Todd Robinson on Jan 22, 2004 9:52:25 GMT -5
Todd, The black space, or "gap" that I'm talking about is seen when you use CTRL and the right arrow key to manually rotate the board. When you rotate it manually, and when the board is rotated halfway, which means that you can see both the Family Feud logo and the Family Feud Fast Money digital logo, you'll see a black "gap" in the middle that wasn't there in version 2.1 A feature that I would most likely request is that when Fast Money round is over, the administrator can press the Page Down key to make the digital board go line by line and replace the contents of Fast Money with the Family Feud digital logo. And then after that, have an ending where the lights would be flashing, the theme would be playing, and the board would be changing from black to yellow, and from yellow to black in a loop. I was wondering if that is possible. Art Art, I see what you're talking about now. It's fixable. Just curious, why are you manually turning the board? What's happening is two separate objects, two sides of the board, are being animated as two separate objects. To get the edges of both boards to always stay together without gapping can be tricky. Luckily at normal speed and with a black background it's not very noticable. I'd love to add a sequence to the ending where the Family Feud digital logo replaces the text left over from the Fast Money round. To do it the way the show does it and look good is very difficult. Each answer and answer value is a separate variable. For each frame of animation, I would have to take away once signle character from the string at a time while the next character of the Family Feud logo appears. I'm not saying it can't be done. It would just take a lot of work. |
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Post by foex91 on Jan 22, 2004 19:48:25 GMT -5
Todd,
The reason I was rotating the board manually is because when the board fully rotates at the beginning sequence from the Family Feud logo to the Family Feud digital logo, the lights stop flashing, the board is changing from yellow to black, and the theme is still playing. I manually rotate enough so that the lights are still going while the theme is playing. Would be there be a way to keep the lights going until the intro theme ends, while at the same time, the board is changing from yellow to black?
Art
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Post by TV Favorites on Jan 22, 2004 21:13:18 GMT -5
That's one thing I was wondering about.
Would it be possible to do something in the next release where the family intro theme plays like it does now, but instead of having the main theme start and the board rotate at the same time as the Pg Down key is pushed, could you do press once to stop the family theme and start the host theme and then press again to rotate the board?
As a side for anyone using the current version, if you want the intro to behave as above, when you are ready for the themes to change, hold the CTRL key and press the right arrow twice quickly. Then, when you are ready for the board to rotate, press Pg Down.
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Post by jeffp on Jan 23, 2004 2:40:24 GMT -5
There are a few other things that come into mind...
The way the opening sequence is now...the turning of the board simultaneously with the music changing to the main FF theme with one press of PgDn, is correct for the 1988 conversion.
The between-rounds commercial sequence is still missing (in a reply to an e-mail I sent you last week, you did promise that this commercial sequence should be added in the next revision after version 3.0).
As for the main game win sequence, with the winner's fanfare (which needs an edit; compare your version against the TV show's version) playing, the lights flash only on the winning family's side. Then as the theme song plays while the losing family walks off the stage, two members of the winning family take center stage with Richard for Fast Money (whichever one is playing second is then secluded into isolation) and the commercial break sequence preceeding Fast Money is cued, the 1976 version should continue to show the lights flashing on the winning family's side only. The way you currently have this lighting effect (lights flashing on both sides while the main theme plays during the goodbye to the losing family) is correct for the 1988 conversion.
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Post by Todd Robinson on Jan 23, 2004 7:43:25 GMT -5
The between-rounds commercial sequence is still missing (in a reply to an e-mail I sent you last week, you did promise that this commercial sequence should be added in the next revision after version 3.0). Jeff, I never promised you a sigle thing to you and even if I did, tell me why I owe it to you? Just enjoy what features I have added like everyone else on this board. Just for everyone to know, official announcements about feature additions, removals, or changes can be found on the website. In this case, commercial cues is something I think would be a nice addition but sometimes things that are "nice" either push other priority tasks aside or don't really add much to the presentation at all. |
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Post by Robbie on Jan 23, 2004 16:47:06 GMT -5
You've gotta realize that there's one of them on every board... or two... or seventy-two...  |
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Post by whirlwood74 on Jan 23, 2004 20:20:39 GMT -5
I downloaded version 3.0 on my computer and loved the changes. However, there is one glaring problem with the interface.
In the second half of Fast Money, the interface freezes when the Ferranti-Packer board gets down to the 5th question. By the 5th question, the board that reveals the answer fails to do so.
I am happy that the game can be adapted to the same format as used on the current season of Family Feud. If no team reaches 300 after four questions, the game is decided with a sudden death question featuring only the #1 answer. ;D
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